Gazriel:
Wafrn (+ fedi) we need more people to follow. Who here enjoys 10 year old YTPs. Do you even 𐑕𐑳𐑒 𐑛𐑦𐑒. 𐑹 𐑒𐑳𐑯𐑑!
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Viiuan:
i am officially trying to fediverse for the second time. i'm going to do it scared bc yes privacy bla bla bla but also whatever SHAVIAN JUMPSCARE
𐑞𐑳 𐑐𐑻𐑕𐑩𐑯 𐑮𐑰𐑛𐑦𐑙 𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑦𐑕 𐑜𐑱
#shavian
C'est marrant, en regardant les nouvelles apps dans #Fdroid, je découvre régulièrement des trucs.
Par exemple, Pocket ReadLex est une app de lexique anglo-shavian. C'est quoi le #shavien ? Un #alphabet #phonétique anglais, financé selon son souhait après sa mort par George Bernard Shaw (d'où le nom) pour permettre une écriture sans digramme, lettre muette et autres complications.
𐑑𐑩𐑛𐑱 𐑲 𐑿𐑟𐑛 ·𐑛𐑪𐑑𐑜𐑮𐑦𐑛 𐑯 ·𐑦𐑙𐑒𐑕𐑒𐑱𐑐 𐑑 𐑥𐑱𐑒 𐑩 𐑐𐑨𐑑𐑼𐑯 𐑬𐑑 𐑝 𐑞 «𐑖𐑰𐑐» 𐑯 «𐑥𐑧𐑠𐑼» 𐑒𐑨𐑮𐑩𐑒𐑑𐑼𐑟 𐑓 𐑥𐑲 #𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑯𐑕𐑒𐑮𐑦𐑐𐑖𐑩𐑯 𐑚𐑤𐑪𐑜 𐑚𐑨𐑒𐑜𐑮𐑬𐑯𐑛. 𐑲 𐑔𐑦𐑙𐑒 𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑐𐑮𐑦𐑑𐑦 𐑒𐑿𐑑!
Today I used Dotgrid and Inkscape to make a pattern out of the "sheep" and "measure" characters, for my #shavian transcription blog background. I think it's pretty cute!
𐑚𐑲 ·𐑧𐑥𐑦𐑤𐑦 𐑛𐑦𐑒𐑦𐑯𐑕𐑩𐑯 | by Emily Dickinson (1890)
𐑞 𐑕𐑒𐑲 𐑦𐑟 𐑤𐑴 – 𐑞 𐑒𐑤𐑬𐑛𐑟 𐑸 𐑥𐑰𐑯
𐑩 𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑝𐑩𐑤𐑦𐑙 𐑓𐑤𐑱𐑒 𐑝 𐑕𐑯𐑴
𐑩𐑒𐑮𐑪𐑕 𐑩 𐑚𐑸𐑯 𐑹 𐑔𐑮𐑵 𐑩 𐑮𐑳𐑑
𐑛𐑦𐑚𐑱𐑑𐑕 𐑓 𐑦𐑑 𐑢𐑦𐑤 𐑜𐑴 –
𐑩 𐑯𐑩𐑮𐑴 𐑢𐑦𐑯𐑛 𐑒𐑪𐑥𐑐𐑤𐑱𐑯𐑟 𐑷𐑤 𐑛𐑱
𐑣𐑬 𐑕𐑳𐑥𐑢𐑳𐑯 𐑑𐑮𐑰𐑑𐑩𐑛 𐑣𐑦𐑥
𐑯𐑱𐑗𐑼, 𐑤𐑲𐑒 𐑳𐑕, 𐑦𐑟 𐑕𐑳𐑥𐑑𐑲𐑥𐑟 𐑒𐑹𐑑
𐑢𐑦𐑞𐑬𐑑 𐑣𐑻 𐑛𐑲𐑩𐑛𐑧𐑥
𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑼, ·𐑡𐑱𐑥𐑟 𐑚𐑷𐑤𐑛𐑢𐑦𐑯 | James Baldwin, The Giver (2014)
𐑦𐑓 𐑞 𐑣𐑴𐑐 𐑝 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑦𐑙
𐑦𐑟 𐑑 𐑤𐑳𐑝 𐑞 𐑤𐑦𐑝𐑦𐑙
𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑼 𐑮𐑦𐑕𐑒𐑕 𐑥𐑨𐑛𐑯𐑩𐑕
𐑦𐑯 𐑞 𐑨𐑒𐑑 𐑝 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑦𐑙
𐑕𐑳𐑥 𐑕𐑳𐑗 𐑤𐑧𐑕𐑩𐑯 𐑲 𐑕𐑰𐑥𐑛 𐑑 𐑕𐑰
𐑦𐑯 𐑞 𐑓𐑱𐑕𐑩𐑟 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑕𐑳𐑮𐑬𐑯𐑛𐑩𐑛 𐑥𐑰
𐑯𐑰𐑛𐑦 𐑯 𐑚𐑤𐑲𐑯𐑛, 𐑳𐑯𐑣𐑴𐑐𐑓𐑳𐑤, 𐑳𐑯𐑮𐑦𐑓𐑑𐑩𐑛,
𐑢𐑳𐑑 𐑜𐑦𐑓𐑑 𐑢𐑫𐑛 𐑜𐑦𐑝 𐑞𐑧𐑥 𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑓𐑑 𐑑 𐑚𐑰 𐑜𐑦𐑓𐑑𐑩𐑛?
𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑼 𐑦𐑟 𐑯𐑴 𐑤𐑧𐑕 𐑩𐑛𐑮𐑦𐑓𐑑
𐑞𐑨𐑯 𐑞𐑴𐑟 𐑣𐑵 𐑸 𐑒𐑤𐑨𐑥𐑼𐑦𐑙 𐑓 𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑓𐑑
𐑦𐑓 𐑞𐑱 𐑒𐑨𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑒𐑤𐑱𐑥 𐑦𐑑, 𐑦𐑓 𐑦𐑑 𐑦𐑟 𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑞𐑺,
𐑦𐑓 𐑞𐑺 𐑧𐑥𐑐𐑑𐑦 𐑓𐑦𐑙𐑜𐑼𐑟 𐑚𐑰𐑑 𐑞 𐑧𐑥𐑐𐑑𐑦 𐑺,
𐑯 𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑼 𐑜𐑴𐑟 𐑛𐑬𐑯 𐑪𐑯 𐑣𐑦𐑟 𐑯𐑰𐑟 𐑦𐑯 𐑐𐑮𐑺,
𐑯𐑴𐑟 𐑟𐑨𐑑 𐑷𐑤 𐑝 𐑣𐑦𐑟 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑦𐑙 𐑣𐑨𐑟 𐑚𐑰𐑯 𐑓 𐑯𐑷𐑑,
𐑯 𐑑𐑻𐑯𐑟 𐑦𐑯 𐑣𐑦𐑟 𐑜𐑦𐑤𐑑𐑦 𐑚𐑧𐑛 𐑑 𐑕𐑑𐑺
𐑨𐑑 𐑞 𐑕𐑑𐑸𐑝𐑦𐑙 𐑥𐑳𐑤𐑑𐑦𐑗𐑵𐑛𐑟 𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑯𐑛𐑦𐑙 𐑞𐑺
𐑯 𐑮𐑲𐑟𐑩𐑟 𐑓𐑮𐑪𐑥 𐑚𐑧𐑛 𐑑 𐑒𐑻𐑕 𐑨𐑑 𐑣𐑧𐑝𐑩𐑯,
𐑣𐑰 𐑥𐑳𐑕𐑑 𐑘𐑧𐑑 𐑳𐑯𐑛𐑼𐑕𐑑𐑨𐑯𐑛 𐑞𐑨𐑑 𐑑 𐑣𐑵𐑥 𐑥𐑳𐑗 𐑦𐑟 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑩𐑯,
𐑥𐑳𐑗 𐑢𐑦𐑤 𐑚𐑰 𐑑𐑱𐑒𐑩𐑯, 𐑯 𐑡𐑳𐑕𐑑𐑤𐑦 𐑕𐑴;
𐑲 𐑒𐑨𐑯𐑪𐑑 𐑑𐑧𐑥 𐑣𐑬 𐑥𐑳𐑗 𐑲 𐑴
Side by side with Latin script English: https://shavian.zoyander.cc/2024/12/07/james-baldwin-the.html
#shavian #𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯
shavian.zoyander.ccShavian transcriptions by Zoyander Street
- 𐑞 𐑜𐑦𐑝𐑼, ·𐑡𐑱𐑥𐑟 𐑚𐑷𐑤𐑛𐑢𐑦𐑯 | James Baldwin, The Giver (2014)
I've almost finished my first notebook for practising #shavian, and I think next I want to start a mini-site for transliterations of poems and prose excerpts (short, say <500 words). I'd like to have a bit of fun with styling, and I'd also like people to be able to subscribe through ActivityPub.
What's the right tool to use for this?
Extra challenge: I don't know how to self-host. I know how to install something in a VM terminal, but I don't understand how that becomes a website.
It's alive!
https://github.com/Dio9sys/shavianchorder/tree/main
This is a new #Shavian alphabet keyboard layout, specifically made for use with the Charachorder One keyboard. An edited version of the official Charachorder layout chart is included to show where the Shavian characters are.
GitHubGitHub - Dio9sys/shavianchorder: Shavian keyboard layout for the CharaChorderShavian keyboard layout for the CharaChorder. Contribute to Dio9sys/shavianchorder development by creating an account on GitHub.
I've just done a few months' worth of updates to the ReadLex, including some important user-suggested additions. #Shavian #𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 https://readlex.pythonanywhere.com/
I’m training up some machine learning models to 'disambiguate homographs' (aka heteronyms, or words with identical Latin alphabet spellings but different pronunciations like ‘bow/bow’, ‘tear/tear’). This will help solve one of the more annoying aspects of auto transliteration into #Shavian. It is both very exciting and intensely boring, since I’m having to make the data sets. Hard to believe there is almost no publicly available training data for this. #𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯
Does anyone out there know how to use the shavian alphabet for English (and do so on the web)? I wonder whether there are any forums and such for newbies to participate and learn in that are recommended.
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𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑦𐑟 𐑢𐑳𐑯𐑛𐑼𐑓𐑩𐑤ǃ 𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑿𐑟𐑼 128 0 255 𐑣𐑨𐑟 𐑑𐑮𐑨𐑯𐑟𐑤𐑦𐑑𐑼𐑱𐑑𐑩𐑛 𐑦𐑯𐑛𐑦 𐑜𐑱𐑥 ‹𐑥𐑦𐑤𐑒 𐑬𐑑𐑕𐑲𐑛 𐑩 𐑚𐑨𐑜 𐑝 𐑥𐑦𐑤𐑒 𐑬𐑑𐑕𐑲𐑛 𐑩 𐑚𐑨𐑜 𐑝 𐑥𐑦𐑤𐑒› 𐑦𐑯𐑑𐑵 𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯. 𐑗𐑧𐑒 𐑬𐑑 𐑛𐑰𐑑𐑱𐑤𐑟 𐑝 𐑞 𐑥𐑪𐑛 𐑨𐑑 https://128-0-255.xyz/milk2 #𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯
→ This is wonderfulǃ Shavian user 128 0 255 has transliterated indy game 'Milk Outside a Bag of Milk Outside a Bag of Milk' into Shavian. Check out details of the mod at https://128-0-255.xyz/milk2
Replied to ·𐑜𐑮𐑱𐑕𐑦𐑥𐑨𐑯𐑑𐑦𐑕𐑦𐑕𐑑
@greysemanticist
My layman's understanding of #dyslexia is that if I see ◰ and ◱, I think "top left quarter in a square" and "bottom left…". I only secondarily realize they're vertical mirrors. A #dyslexic person sees both ◲ and ◰ as "square with quadrant" and only secondarily notices "in bottom right" or "in top left".
I confess that I don't understand the Open Dyslexic font rationale. In normal sans-serif fonts, the four lowercase letters b,d,p,q are identical to each other (provided the font you're using doesn't put a serif on the q): any single letter can flip or spin onto any other. If you thicken the bottoms, b|d is still a mirrored pair, as is p|q. Doing base thickening on the #Shavian letters would still leave ado|on and egg|ash as mirrored pairs.
The Dyslexie font seem better, in that it makes the round part of 'b' and 'd' egg-shaped. In 'b' the egg is fat-end-down, and in 'd' it's fat-end-up: the letters can't be mirrored onto each other. It makes the round part of 'p' more fat-middle. And 'q' is rendered as a half-size 'Q'.
In my worldview, one would have to alter letters such that none could be mirrored or rotated onto another. But the Shavian font is, by design, highly symmetric. The unvoiced tall 'fee' [ 𐑓 ] rotates to become the voiced deep 'vow' [ 𐑝 ]. Nine other unvoiced-voiced letter pairs do that. Loll/roar and mime/nun are horizontal mirrors [ 𐑤 𐑮 𐑥 𐑯 ], and so on. In fact, only eight of 48 letters have no mates [ if, eat, up, oak, array, ear, ian, yew ]. So making a font where no letter can rotate or mirror onto another seems unlikely.
Replied to Bok
@bok What if the #Shavian letters were modified in the Open Dyslexic style where the thickness indicates the bottom of the letter? This is my first ham-fisted attempt in a few minutes with FontForge (which I've never used before today)
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𐑢𐑪𐑑 𐑦𐑓 𐑞 #·𐑖𐑱𐑝𐑾𐑯 𐑤𐑧𐑑𐑼𐑟 𐑢𐑻 𐑥𐑪𐑛𐑦𐑓𐑲𐑛 𐑦𐑯 𐑞 ·𐑴𐑐𐑩𐑯 ·𐑛𐑦𐑕𐑤𐑧𐑒𐑕𐑦𐑒 𐑕𐑑𐑲𐑤 𐑢𐑺 𐑞 𐑔𐑦𐑒𐑯𐑩𐑕 𐑦𐑯𐑛𐑦𐑒𐑱𐑑𐑕 𐑞 𐑚𐑪𐑑𐑩𐑥 𐑝 𐑞 𐑤𐑧𐑑𐑼? 𐑞𐑦𐑕 𐑦𐑟 𐑥𐑲 𐑓𐑻𐑕𐑑 𐑣𐑨𐑥-𐑓𐑦𐑕𐑑𐑩𐑛 𐑩𐑑𐑧𐑥𐑐𐑑 𐑦𐑯 𐑩 𐑓𐑿 𐑥𐑦𐑯𐑦𐑑𐑕 𐑢𐑦𐑞 ·𐑓𐑪𐑯𐑑𐑓𐑹𐑡 (𐑢𐑦𐑗 𐑲'𐑝 𐑯𐑧𐑝𐑼 𐑿𐑟𐑛 𐑚𐑦𐑓𐑹 𐑑𐑩𐑛𐑱)
I've been looking at the #Shavian #alphabet a bit lately. It looks nice, but must be hellish if one is #dyslexic. For example, the starting vowels for on, ash, egg, ado [ 𐑪 𐑨 𐑧 𐑩 ]¹ are the same character, rotated four ways. Most letters are rotations or reflections of others.
[1] If you lack the font, imagine a circle [not disk] cut into quarters. The vowels are NE, SE, SW, NW arcs, slightly elongated vertically.
Wondering about the #Shavian alphabet, https://codepoints.net/shavian ? Here is a nice explanatory video about its origin and use:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D66LrlotvCA
/via @simevidas
codepoints.netShavian – CodepointsThe Unicode block Shavian contains the codepoints from U+10450 to U+1047F.