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Added #Sublinks, #Buttondown, #ActivityPods, #Hollo, #Smilodon and #Patchwork icons to #FediverseIconography at https://fediverse.wake.st
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For starters, Lemmy, the other Threadiverse projects and several other Fediverse server applications, e.g. Friendica and its descendants Hubzilla and (streams) have one technological advantage over Mastodon when it comes to discussions:
They have a proper concept of conversations. They distinguish between a start post and a reply or comment, and they make use of the "context" attribute on the latter to reference the start post of a thread. This makes it possible to tie discussion threads like in a forum or on Reddit together.
In addition, they always deliver all replies in a thread to all participants in the same thread. No mentions needed. This makes it possible for everyone to easily follow a discussion without having to rely on everyone mentioning everyone or keep looking up the start post at its source.
Mastodon doesn't do either. Mastodon mimics 𝕏 with all its shortcomings, and 𝕏 doesn't have any comparable functionality, and such functionality wouldn't be microblogging, so Mastodon doesn't have it either. Just like everything is the same kind of tweet on 𝕏, everything is the same kind of toot on Mastodon, and it relies on mentions and an out-dated, deprecated OStatus tag that doesn't even exist in ActivityPub to tie directly related posts together.
Thus, meaningful discussions between more than two participants are easily possible on Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) etc., but on Mastodon and the other "Twitter clones", they require the users jumping through hoops, if they work at all.
Also, discussion groups. Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) etc. have had them since their respective inception. Mastodon doesn't because 𝕏 doesn't, and groups aren't microblogging. The Mastodon devs are said to be working on implementing groups, but I expect that to become a dirty hack that's incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse. In the meantime, Mastodon users need external, third-party solutions like Guppe, now-defunct Chirp or Friendica.
Mastodon users try to use Mastodon as the all-purpose Swiss army knife of the Fediverse. Mastodon itself tries to market itself as the perfect, fully-featured, one-size-fits-all jack-of-all-trades solution in the Fediverse that lets you do everything you want to do. At the same time, however, Mastodon tries to hold on to its idea of purist microblogging, and it has to struggle with the consequences of having done so all the time.
The only way the Mastodon folks can hope to push their agenda through is by:
Sadly, there are lots of Lemmy communities in which hardly anything happens. They've got hundreds of subscribers who, however, don't interact with the community. There's often only one user who occasionally posts stuff, but absolutely nobody ever replies to anything.
If you happen to be interested in a catalogue of Lemmy communities, try the one on Lemmyverse. Or if you're specifically looking for an active community, try c/Fediverse.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Threadiverse #Lemmy #kbin #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #Sublinks #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)
what functions do Lemmy, Pixelfed, and others serve that Mastodon doesn't?
For starters, Lemmy, the other Threadiverse projects and several other Fediverse server applications, e.g. Friendica and its descendants Hubzilla and (streams) have one technological advantage over Mastodon when it comes to discussions:
They have a proper concept of conversations. They distinguish between a start post and a reply or comment, and they make use of the "context" attribute on the latter to reference the start post of a thread. This makes it possible to tie discussion threads like in a forum or on Reddit together.
In addition, they always deliver all replies in a thread to all participants in the same thread. No mentions needed. This makes it possible for everyone to easily follow a discussion without having to rely on everyone mentioning everyone or keep looking up the start post at its source.
Mastodon doesn't do either. Mastodon mimics 𝕏 with all its shortcomings, and 𝕏 doesn't have any comparable functionality, and such functionality wouldn't be microblogging, so Mastodon doesn't have it either. Just like everything is the same kind of tweet on 𝕏, everything is the same kind of toot on Mastodon, and it relies on mentions and an out-dated, deprecated OStatus tag that doesn't even exist in ActivityPub to tie directly related posts together.
Thus, meaningful discussions between more than two participants are easily possible on Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) etc., but on Mastodon and the other "Twitter clones", they require the users jumping through hoops, if they work at all.
Also, discussion groups. Lemmy, /kbin, Mbin, PieFed, Sublinks, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) etc. have had them since their respective inception. Mastodon doesn't because 𝕏 doesn't, and groups aren't microblogging. The Mastodon devs are said to be working on implementing groups, but I expect that to become a dirty hack that's incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse. In the meantime, Mastodon users need external, third-party solutions like Guppe, now-defunct Chirp or Friendica.
Mastodon users try to use Mastodon as the all-purpose Swiss army knife of the Fediverse. Mastodon itself tries to market itself as the perfect, fully-featured, one-size-fits-all jack-of-all-trades solution in the Fediverse that lets you do everything you want to do. At the same time, however, Mastodon tries to hold on to its idea of purist microblogging, and it has to struggle with the consequences of having done so all the time.
The only way the Mastodon folks can hope to push their agenda through is by:
- presenting Mastodon as the Fediverse proper, especially to newbies
- shielding Mastodon users from the existence of other Fediverse projects; at least some other projects show which project a post or comment came from
- brainwashing Mastodon users into the opinion that the Fediverse is all about microblogging and shouldn't have more/better features than what vanilla Mastodon offers
- making the rest of the Fediverse look bad to Mastodon users by intentionally making Mastodon incompatible with the rest of the Fediverse, thus giving the impression that it's everything else in the Fediverse that's "broken"
I joined Lemmy and Pixelfed wanting to participate but the level of traffic seemed too low to generate the interaction I had hoped for. Did I look in the wrong places, or did I fail to notice the action, or did I look too early?
Sadly, there are lots of Lemmy communities in which hardly anything happens. They've got hundreds of subscribers who, however, don't interact with the community. There's often only one user who occasionally posts stuff, but absolutely nobody ever replies to anything.
If you happen to be interested in a catalogue of Lemmy communities, try the one on Lemmyverse. Or if you're specifically looking for an active community, try c/Fediverse.
#Long #LongPost #CWLong #CWLongPost #FediMeta #FediverseMeta #CWFediMeta #CWFediverseMeta #Fediverse #Mastodon #Threadiverse #Lemmy #kbin #/kbin #Mbin #PieFed #Sublinks #Friendica #Hubzilla #Streams #(streams)
lemmyverse.netLemmy ExplorerInstance and Community Explorer for Lemmy
https://discuss.online/post/6776820
The Sublinks team has written up a little survey, which we feel is both thorough and inclusive. It covers a wide range of topics, such as user privacy, and community engagement, along with trying to gauge things that are difficult when moderating.
discuss.onlineFeedback from all moderators - Discuss OnlineThe Sublinks team has written up a little survey, which we feel is both thorough
and inclusive. It covers a wide range of topics, such as user privacy, and
community engagement, along with trying to gauge things that are difficult when
moderating. Also please be aware the information collected by this survey is
completely anonymous. As many of us in the social sciences background know, if
you want the REAL feelings of individuals, they need to feel safe to express
themselves. 👉Moderation Survey HERE👈 [https://forms.office.com/r/bEwUgpmcWW]
Please feel free to comment in this thread, we will do our best to respond to
any genuine questions. We look forward to hearing from each and every one of
you! Sincerely, The Sublinks Team
Did some work on the #sublinks component library to start getting components set up so they can be used in multiple projects and can be designed separately from the site itself
Got basic buttons and chips in currently. Should probably be doing more work today (might be the thing I work on for my Monday stream)
Got some more work done on my game template yesterday on stream. Did some more progress on the achivement system and persisting data and should be finishing them up in tomorrows stream.
Doing some more progress on #sublinks today to do as much as I can on the theme library + demo site to try to finish that up so it can be used in the sublinks frontend
My weekly schedule for the next weeks should be
- Monday: Game Development (stream)
- Tuesday: Sublinks Libraries
- Wednesday: Game Tools (stream)
- Thursday: Sublinks Frontend
- Friday: Gaming (stream)
And then whatever needs to be done on the weekend (probably finishing up the update to my dome keeper mod this weekend so I can get that out)
Starting work on a theme customization library for #sublinks. Themes will be able to be defined in json files (with values for colors) and then be read in for usage. Ideally would also have a theme builder built into the UI at some point
Making an updated #introduction post for myself for the release of Bytes!
Hi I'm Ategon, an Indie #gamedev from Canada
The main things I'm currently working on is managing programming.dev, designing the frontend for #sublinks which is a federated forum and link aggregator, making games for game jams such as Ludum Dare, Brackeys, and GMTK, and working on a main game which is a roguelite platformer
You can find all of my socials on me.programming.dev/@Ategon and ive got some gifs of some of my jam games attached
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Some more progress on the home page visuals for sublinks. Added back in the options for post sort and scope and added new communities to the sidebar on the right
going to be spending future days now cleaning it up and fixing various bugs that popped up
#sublinks #fediverse
Will be starting to share progress on the Sublinks UI that ive been working on
Starting off with some progress I’ve been making on the Home Page. Been taking things I enjoy from both alternate frontends such as Photon and Tesseract, as well as Misskey forks like Iceshrimp and Sharkey.
People who followed me as I was developing Pangora might recognize a lot of similar design decisions. Still in progress but ill try to share new progress at least every couple of days when I work on it with new additions
The left sidebar can be collapsed to show only icons for people who want a bit more space for post cards. Hovering over an option adds a popover saying what it is. In addition when you scroll down the navbar shrinks a bit to give you more space for post cards. On mobile the navbar hides completely when you scroll down and then shows again when you scroll up
The frontend is still heavily in progress so things may change a lot still before release as I refine it. If you’ve got suggestions feel free to give me them
(this is basically a mirror of my programming.dev post but wanted to start posting them here as well)
#sublinks #fediverse
Sublinks Home Page Progress
Mima-sama @Amelia@transfem.social You might want to try spinning up a #Sublinks instance, it has a #Lemmy compatible API (it even reuses the same frontend) but has a whole new backend (no more #Rust!) 
http://sublinks.org/
SublinksAboutSublinks, crafted using Java Spring Boot, stands as a state-of-the-art link aggregation and microblogging platform, reminiscent yet advanced compared to Lemmy & Kbin. Sublinks is not just a platform; it’s a community-centric ecosystem, prioritizing user experience, content authenticity, and networked social interaction.
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@Techmeme I left #Reddit and encourage others to do the same. We have #opensource #fediverse options now, like #lemmy and #sublinks
The #SubLinks creator @jsonarray provided a super interesting write-up regarding his motivations for starting the project, along with his journey in trying to provide Trust & Safety improvements to #Lemmy.
JasonGr.im · Why I started Sublinks: A timeline of events
A new #Threadiverse platform emerges! #Sublinks is a Lemmy-compatible platform written in Java that aims to work with existing apps.
https://wedistribute.org/2024/01/sublinks-a-replacement-for-lemmy/
We Distribute · Sublinks Aims to Be a Drop-In Replacement for LemmyThe Threadiverse is growing again, this time offering an effort to build a new Lemmy replacement from scratch, with API compatibility.