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Update 2: @n00q kindly pointed out that this has a number of inaccurate pieces of information and it has been spreading around enough that there are articles debunking *some* of it.

More info about it in this forum community.signalusers.org/t/is

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Really bad timing too cause you know who needs to keep shit secure? People who's passports say stuff that the US government don't like. You know who just gave Trump 1 million dollars? Tim Cook, CEO of Apple.

sarah connor 🌲🪐
@liaizon @signalapp This doesn't make a difference, Apple and Google have been able to read all your Signal messages since the beginning because they're stored unencrypted on device

Fundamental flaw in Signal's threat model is that almost everyone using it is using it from a device which is deeply compromised at every level by Apple and Google
Fish of Rage
@scathach @signalapp @liaizon they were only stored unencrypted on signal desktop (until recently, now it is encrypted.) it was encrypted on phone
sarah connor 🌲🪐
@sun @signalapp @liaizon Encrypted with what keys though

I've never put in a passphrase when opening Signal and I'm able to read my messages just fine
Fish of Rage
@scathach @signalapp @liaizon apple and google can read your Signal messages because they completely control your device. So it is a distinction without a difference.
Fish of Rage
@scathach @signalapp @liaizon on desktop it mattered because there's not great app separation by default and typically an app on your desktop can read anything another app writes. On smartphones every app has its own user and is locked into its own namespace. So a random app can't steal your data.

But for the actual OS vendor I don't know the mechanism that makes your data available to device search but I am pretty sure that it isn't on by default. I don't see how it could because every app would have its own storage scheme.
n00q

@liaizon

This is misinfo. Be careful sharing it!

Here's an article that had to be rewritten after getting it wrong:
houstonchronicle.com/business/

Andrew

@liaizon @signalapp this is all done on-device, fwiw

wakest ⁂

@cinebox thanks I see how much of this was wrong now thanks for posting

Blitzen 🇺🇦

@liaizon @signalapp I think the department who sent this is mistaken. “Learn from this app” vis a vis Apple Intelligence can’t see what’s being texted, it’s only learning the pattern of when/where you use the app. And even that remains local.

You may rightly want your usage not to be analyzed, but that has nothing to do with breaking e2e.

wakest ⁂

@blitzen thanks I changed my post after seeing how much of it was wrong

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