I just finished reading this massive thread about standardizing “groups” on the #fediverse and how we want them to work in the future: https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/pixelfed-groups/1984/36
I tagged them here in case others who do not partake in the socialhub forum have followup questions or concerns regarding the shaping of the fediverse, as this is a participatory space!
@yala I loved your participation in this thread and how far out of “tech” you brought the discussion. I think we need more of that in the standardization process to remind ourself we are building the fabric for future inter-human interaction
I was mainly posting about this thread here to encourage more people to go read it because I think there are many important lessons to be had in reading between the lines there. Tagging recent AFK human I have had discussion with about these issues: @notplants @cryptix @cblgh @powersource @adz @manyver_se
@liaizon I opened and skimmed it, but I would need a TL;DR because the thread seems focused on AP technical details that make it hard to abstract and see common problems and common patterns with other decentral communities
Thank you Michael for adding your voice. I've worn different hats from builder to archaeologist but ultimately I'm a problem solver.
It would be great to see group functionality start simple because they provide value even if only local to an instance.
Obviously everyone's thinking about how to federate them, which will pay dividends as their boundaries grow beyond the instance, but it seems to me difficulty in achieving consensus around federation has stymied development of the basic thing.
I have 2 groups (forums) on Hubzilla with mostly AP people. As in new Hubzilla 6.2 the posting to group via AP Direct message started to work I am going to announce it and then it depends how anybody would like to use it. AP people can try to make groups on Hz and see if it does what they expect because from theoretical developer discussion it is hard to understand. I like it and to say something one has to experience how the communication situations look on different sides and it takes some time.
@orx just noticed this message now :( somehow missed it lol. I haven’t used Hubzilla groups at all I guess I should go experience that for myself. What instance are you using lately?
@liaizon the tension between "make everything public, for safety" and "let me have private groups, for safety" is wild. Is there a solution?
the personal instance of Liaizon Wakest